you spread hiv by using condoms? i don't want to underestimate the craziness of the right over the last 20 years. but i feel like she's even on the fringe act of the craziness. >> i guess so. the mouse/human hybrid. i'm defending christine o'donnell on national television. here's what i feel, there isn't that much distance. i mean that as a way of indicting where the republican and conservative coalition is right now as opposed to exculpatory toward christine o'donnell. i think her views are completely zany. i think they're zany in a wam that is unvarnished and out there and amateurishly expressed over this long period of punditry as oppose onned to so far outside the realm of your average -- look at republican house members. they're saying things on the floor of the united states house of republicans all the times that equal maybe not the mouse/human hybrid but other things. >> i have to disagree with you. this is true for sharon fwl tro too. both with angle and o'donnell, when i hear them talking about conservative